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Old 02-08-2009, 09:22 AM
Enviroman01 Enviroman01 is offline
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Steve is right, As a dealer we have to explain that this is not a water softener. I have installed many of these units with only a few complaints. I believe it's not so much the performance of the equipment but the customers expectations. The customer must know exactly what they are getting. I have found that if a customer has had a water softener before they are not satisfied with a scale stop solution. I think they are great when applied to the right customer!


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Old 02-08-2009, 12:41 PM
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Hey 'milehigh5', did you ever get the ScaleStop system, and if so how pleased are you with it?
Hi there, I haven't logged on here to the forum for a long time. I got the email update with your questions and just had to chime in.

We did buy the Scalestop system. We've had it for a year and I can say with full confidence that it really does work. Our builder had read about it and we were the first home in the development to get one. Now 6 other houses in the development have Scalestop too. Our water is very hard here and we've seen some of our neighbors who have regular water softeners and others who have nothing as well as those who now have scalestop.

Hard water spots- GONE ! We sometimes get a little powdery buildup that just wipes off.
Soap- My next-door neighbor who has the same system says she's using about half the soap she did before and getting great results. I personally haven't seen a difference with the soap yet.
Dishwasher- We still use jet-dry but our ring at the bottom of the dishwasher isn't crusty like the people who have hard water only.
Taste-We got a carbon filter with the ScaleStop (recommended by Greg) so our water tastes great! No funky soft water taste and no chlorine city water taste either.
Feel-Our water definitely isn't slimy, but it feels somehow different than before. I don't knoe if its the ScaleStop or the Carbon, but I feel somehow "cleaner"...maybe it is all in my mind?
Environment- I feel real good knowing that we're protecting the earth and not wasting money on salt or electricity and not discharging beinewater to the sewer every single night
Cost- We did the math and buying our system with the cost of the TAC media stuff that needs to be replaced every three years,we figured it would be about the same price as a softener.

I love my water. In fact I promised Greg that I would put a review down after a year--sorry, life moves too fast. I'll post in the review section also.

ScaleStop - It works great!!!






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Hey Greg, Ion_avenger, & Steve F, I'm new here but have been considering the Next ScaleStop as a scale buildup solution. My primary goal is to prevent our new fixtures and mostly glass shower (lots of new remodel work) from being ruined by scale, lime, etc. I've looked at many softeners but would prefer to avoid the salt, water waste, and elec usage associated with most offerings. I also don't have a need/preference for the slippery feel commonly associated with softened water. We live in Southern CA and the water is very hard here as well. I like the 'green' approach provided with this technology, but as you've noted, there are many 'gimmics' out there for sale. Based on what you know, does this system seem legit? They also claim that their process will actually remove existing scale/build up from your pipes, does this seem possible? The regular maintenance cost with this system seem to be a little more than many of the common water softener systems, but it may be worth it in the end. Very interested in scale prevention solutions, and would like a 'green' option if it truly works and isn't crazy expensive.
Anxiously awaiting your reply . . .

Hey 'milehigh5', did you ever get the ScaleStop system, and if so how pleased are you with it?
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Old 02-08-2009, 01:30 PM
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Right on!
It is not a softener, but it is a awesome scale control device.

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Steve is right, As a dealer we have to explain that this is not a water softener. I have installed many of these units with only a few complaints. I believe it's not so much the performance of the equipment but the customers expectations. The customer must know exactly what they are getting. I have found that if a customer has had a water softener before they are not satisfied with a scale stop solution. I think they are great when applied to the right customer!


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Old 02-10-2009, 06:54 PM
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All, thanks much for the replies, all info appreciated.
SteveF, I understand and appreciate the honesty in clarification. It certainly seems like the ScaleStop community is very interested in and concerned with ensuring that the full truth be disclosed about the product, and expectations set properly to ensure satisfaction for the customer.
On the note of the 'salt-less' or 'saltfree' system reference, there's another company here locally called "Healing Water Machines". They claim a "salt free softeners", and it appears they're selling Pelican brand "NaturSoft" products, here's their link:
http://www.healingwatermachines.com/...r_softener.php

From reading their info it sounds similar to the ScaleStop system, and it appears to be a WQA Gold Seal product. Here are their claims - zero salt, zero salt water discharge, zero chemicals, cleans the plumbing, etc. Most companies seem to say use of "saltfree" is a 'no-no'.
Anyone heard of these guys or this product? Any experience or known history? How does it compare to ScaleStop?
I'd be interested in all info and opinions so all, feel free to reply.
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Old 02-10-2009, 10:28 PM
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Their WQA certification is just for mechanical integrity & safety, it doesn't prove that their product works at all. I don't know much about there technology but I see a lot of them here in SoCal and have NEVER met a homeowner who is satisfied.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:19 PM
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Hi all! It has been a long time for me to post to this site as well. Thank you for the link to the recent comments. Just to be fair to those reading this, please note that I am associated with Next Filtration. I have been a water treatment professional for the last 25 years. The founders of Next Filtration have been responsible for pioneering a number of great technologies in the industry, several going back well before my time. Things like the first quick change RO cartridges, the first Spot Free Rinse for Car Wash applications, the first simple SDI measuring device, the first booster pumps that could run dry, the Permeate Pump, blab, blab, blab
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